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    Oh, I agree. If either Salah or Mane left, I think you would see us rapidly in for a Sancho (or dare I dream an Mbappe). I still think the two Spanish heavywieghts are a draw like no other, really.

    On the money front, I remember seeing a wage table, where Mane was relatively low on our wage structure (~£160k/week or so) and not up with Salah, Virgil or Firmino, which means he might think he can improve his lot by becoming the 'main man at Madrid'. There's also the chance to be 'the guy' at Madrid, rather than have to share the plaudits with a more balanced team.

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    I'm sure there are bonuses in there but if Mane is on £100k/week, we are stealing from him.

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    Jeez, way too much common sense here from Melissa Reddy about how Liverpool will approach the next transfer window and transfers in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samarkand View Post
    Jeez, way too much common sense here from Melissa Reddy about how Liverpool will approach the next transfer window and transfers in general.
    Terrifying to see concepts like "value" and "budget" and "planning" pollute the discussion. Sign Messi! Sign Mbappe! /S
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    Word is that Lallana is definitely gone in the summer. I think, like Milner, he still has a lot to offer. But, like Ings, he has spent too much time injured.

    There's no way he's part of the starting XI, but he'd nearly always be part of the the match day squad. But perhaps that will not be enough for him.

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    There’s a less than reputable source in Spain (some tabloid rag) which claims Bayern have zero interest in keeping Coutinho and are shipping him back to Barcelona at the end of the season.

    Barca, under the new manager (and, one assumes, Messi), see no place for him in their setup. They know they’ll never see £142m they paid for him, but really want rid of him. Apparently £67m will get you Coutinho over the summer.

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    Okay, I've seen enough. Two whole games. Since LFC thinks two windows ahead it now behooves us to do the same.

    In/Out although really it should be Up/Down the pecking order not necessarily a departure:

    Goalkeeper: Kelleher(21) or Grabara(21)/Lonergan(36) making our goalkeeping Alisson(27),Adrian(33),Kelleher/Grabara(21), Lonergan(36) leaves.

    Right Back: Hoever(18)/Gomez(23) making our right backs Alexander-Arnold(21), Hoever(18), Gomez(23), Milner(34), Fabinho(26), no one leaves.
    Center Back: Hoever(18)/Lovren(31) making our central defense van Dijk(29), Matip(29), Gomez(23), Hoever(18), Fabinho(26), Lovren(31) leaves.
    Left Back: Lewis(20) or Larouci(18)/Gomez(23) making our left backs Robertson(26), Milner(34), Lewis or Larouci(20 or 18), Gomez(23), no one leaves.

    Midfield: Grujic(24)/Lallana(32) making our midfield:

    Holders: Fabinho(26), Wijnaldum(29), Henderson(30), Keita(25), Milner(34), Lallana(32) [as Jorginho], Grujic(24), Lallana(32) may leave.
    Knitters: Wijnaldum(29), Keita(25), Henderson(30), Milner(34), Lallana(32), Fabinho(26), Lallana(32) may leave.
    Attackers: Keita(25), Henderson(30), Oxlade-Chamberlain(27), Wijnaldum(29), Milner(34), Shaqiri(28), Lallana(32), Grujic(24), Fabinho(26), Lallana(32) may leave.

    Left Wing: Larouci(18)/No one(0), making our left wings Mané(28), Origi(25), Oxlade-Chamberlain(27), Shaqiri(28), Larouci(18), no one leaves.

    Striker/Center Forward: No one making our center forwards Firmino(28), Origi(25), Salah(28), Mané(28), Brewster(20), Wijnaldun(29), no one leaves.

    Right Wing: Harry Wilson()/No one(0) making our right wings Salah(28), Shaqiri(28), Wilson(23), Mané(28), no one leaves.

    It's a team with a few in their 30s (5 including Lovren) and a great many in their prime (10). With no transfers in it's still challenging for the title.

    Assuming we can find young talent that meets our character and playing potential standards what positions would you reinforce and who would you replace in the squad or block from the kids?
    So 6-ish months on, not much has changed:

    GK looks the same with Kelleher ahead of Grabara for now.

    RB has changed with Neco Williams popping up although he still won't see much daylight as a specialist right-back will either start (minor English cups/injury/rotation) or watch from the stands.
    CB has changed a little with Gomez ahead of Matip for now, Lovren either sticking as 3rd or 4th choice or leaving, Van den Berg in the picture along with Hoever.
    LB same.

    HM same.
    KM Minimino/Lallana else same.
    AM Minimino puts a cloud on Grujic's horizon as a straight replacement for Lallana.

    LW Minimino co-equal with Origi.
    S Minimino slightly ahead of Origi.
    RW Minimino co-equal with Shaqiri - Aloha Harry Wilson (unless Shaqiri moves on).

    If we go into the transfer market this summer it's because a kid we had projected to move up hasn't progressed. We are still set for next season's first 18 players. Age becomes an issue the following year so we might look at a 24 year-old somewhere to bridge the gap between (for example) our in-their-prime CBs and our young CBs. But I doubt it.

    The likeliest purchase: Someone who plays multiple positions the most important of which is LB (for cover) and who is either coming from a relegated team or is someone we've never heard of.
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    Word is, via The Athletic, that Wijnaldum will be signing a new contract soon.

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    Interesting article in The Guardian about VVD. Bascially the thrust is that he cost £75m which was seen almost immediately as a steal. Hiding in plain sight is the phrase.

    But the question posed (and they pretty much dismiss the Juve link) is that if he were to be sold amicably, what would his price be? The Guardian thinks about $150m, but I disagree. I don't know what the figure is, but it's more than £150m.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samarkand View Post
    Interesting article in The Guardian about VVD. Bascially the thrust is that he cost £75m which was seen almost immediately as a steal. Hiding in plain sight is the phrase.

    But the question posed (and they pretty much dismiss the Juve link) is that if he were to be sold amicably, what would his price be? The Guardian thinks about $150m, but I disagree. I don't know what the figure is, but it's more than £150m.
    They've been on a bit of a tear lately, in terms of high quality longer-form journalism (e.g., the Houllier homage). I wonder if the Athletic has anything to do with that.

    With respect to your point, I'm not sure what his value is, but I agree that Liverpool wouldn't sell him at that price. That said, not sure anyone would pay more than that, really, either. Which means he stays.
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